[CS-FSLUG] OT: The priest IS/WAS right!!

Craig Button craigb.rn at gmail.com
Fri Mar 2 21:37:14 CST 2012

Stated better than I could.

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On Mar 2, 2012, at 10:27 PM, "dcolburn at bibleseven.com"
<dcolburn at bibleseven.com> wrote:

> I agree that the majority of members and regular attendees, as well
> as many deacons and elders, and some pastors are unsaved.
> One *major* problem is the Saddleback/WillowCreek-effect where
> believer-only activities are mixed with outreach activities to where
> there is an absence of clarity between the two.
> The Bible clearly teaches that there is a time and place for believers
> to gather for worship and other forms of corporate activity, generally
> visitors are permitted to be onlookers (but not always), but those times
> are *not seeker-friendly* as they are *for believers*.
> Our truly-saved members remain on milk because we never challenge
> them to step-up to meat in any serious way.
> Many of our truly-saved members 'hide' in "seeker-sensitive" gatherings
> so they do not have to mature - because they like one foot in the world
> and the other in the kingdom - and that is not a new problem.
> The answer will require obliterating 'the idolatry of tradition' as well as
> displacing 'the idolatry of political-correctness' (a big problem for those
> who want a comfortable/familiar and non-challenging environment).
> The answer also includes a high-priority on mutual accountability and
> intimate fellowship (a big problem for organizations obsessed with
> numeric growth over spiritual growth.)
> > Craig Button wrote:
>> I'm thinking the church is ineffectual because there aren't very
>> many true Christians in it. It's full of people who go to church on
>> sunday morning. But I assume that it isn't anything new. I'm sure
>> there were non believers in the followers who were following Christ
>> when he was here.
>> Sin is important, but when focusing on sin, it's easy to fall into
>> legalism. We are supposed to confront and rebuke, fellow believers,
>> bit when it comes to non believers, it gets a bit grey.
>> Christ spent lots of time with sinners, and he never sent anyone
>> away. They walked away on their own, but never sent away. I agree
>> it's a fine line between tolerating sin and closing the door before a
>> person has a chance to choose to get through the door.
>> I don't know the answer, but using the moment to present the grace
>> of our Lord, might have done more to possible lead the person to
>> Christ and a true life changing experience than never laying the seed
>> in the first place.
>> Now you'll get no argument out of me, about the sin that we tolerate
>> in the church itself in the name of tolerance. I'm thinking some of
>> these congregations will follow into the luke warm category that is
>> mentioned in Revelation.
> --
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> David M. Colburn, DMin. MaCo
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