[CS-FSLUG] OT: THE EU VOTE....GOOD article.

[Chris Brault]

Indeed,


> The main reason that drove the French to vote
> against this text was that most people don't see
what > Europe is bringing them anymore. 

Two thoughts here:
1) Think: Socialist Mentality (i.e. welfare state)
2) Think: 10 toes of statue (it's not time yet)

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> This is not true. And I might remind some how bad
> the laws used to be in European countries when it
was 
> governed by clerics, some centuries ago...

Note:
Genital mutilation and women property reared up it's
ugly head around here. It had been going on for some
time among the pakistanis. We put at stop to it.

Femme Covert ... ahhhhh ... the good ol' days. An
honest days beating for an honest days work (quote
from Club Paradise with Robin Williams).

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>> But we must not say this in public or to flush the 
>> Koran down the toilet!
> 
> Don't worry, some policitians don't hesitate to say
> such things in public! There are more and more 
> nationalists in Europe...

Apparently, a muslim flushed the Koran (after spending
time over there, I suspect that many are Muslims like
people in Italy are Catholic: Only on holidays).

Aside from that ... who bloody cares. You don't see
Christians killing each other in the streets if
someone flushes a bible down the toilet. It's a book
with paper and text. We can get another. 

Perhaps Muslims are too attached to physical objects.
Or maybe their Mulla's are using these minor events to
 exploit the ignorant and usually poor masses to do
really stupid things (think: suicide bombers) to
obtain a particular political/religious agenda. Seems
a bit self-serving to me. I need clout ... quick ...
get me some poor stooges to do some dirty work.

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> > (Some aspects of Western culture 
> > are not admirable either.)  There is a huge Muslim
> > population in France, and the French and the Dutch

> > see the Muslim incursion as a challenge to
> > their culture, a threat to their way of life.
> 
> There have been muslims for more than 50 years in
> France (not to say big parts of the country have
been 
> part of muslim empires some centuries ago, and have 
> kept it in their cultures). Some parts of the arabic
> culture have even become part of the French culture 
> so much that we forgot it was arabic (esp. food). 

Food is one thing (the English and their chutney and
teas for example), culture is another. It's gonna come
down to nails eventually. And a secular Europe is
going to find all-inclusiveness means for
non-fundamentals only: Muslims and Christians.
Compromise or die ... the call of the Anti-Christ.

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> Most politicians who blame Turkey for not being
> Christian are not Christian themselves, just like
GWB 
> who talks so more about Christianity is 
> not a Christian imo. Often in history non-christians
> try to *control* Christians by making them think
they 
> are focused on their interests...

Indeed, sir. You've talked to GWB about this. Or
perhaps you read his testamony and the testamony of
those who have known him and drawn a conclusion.
There's a documentary about it I watched a while back
... I just can't seem to remember the name ... anyone?

A note: Being a Christian does not make someone
perfect. Neither does it make a good politician. Nor
does it make someone better at international
relations.

However, a multitude of advisors and a long term
strategy does. Remember, there are people who aren't
ignorant making decisions considering the
ramifications 10, 20 and 50 years down the road.

Either way, true about non-Christians attempting to
control Christians .

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> We have rich and poor places for sure, but it's not 
> as harsh a separation as in the US.
> Intense competition for jobs ... LOL ... France had
> muslims come here years ago to help us for the war, 
> when some muslim countries were still part of our 
> country. They fought in our army, and now we would
> consider they steal our jobs? One has to be really 
> bad to think this way, when these people didn't 
> ask to come.

Again, Think: A capitalist state with a limited
welfare system nor a socialist welfare state can
survive an uncontrolled invasion by the poor and
unskilled.  Neither America (by our southern
neighbors) or Europe (by it's southern neighbors).
Luckily for the US, we don't have a former empire
knocking at our door. Unluckily for europe, the most
socialist will be disturbed the most (darn Darwinian
Socialism at it's best).

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