[OFB Cafe] John McCain might actually win this thing. Here's how

[Timothy Butler]

On Sep 25, 2008, at 9:06 AM, Fred Smith wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Fred A. Miller <fmiller at lightlink.com 
> > wrote:
>> The reason I don't respond to you, is because of totally ignorant
>> statements like the above. Either you don't have a clue about  
>> anything
>> or you simply enjoy throwing out any garbage you can think of just to
>> irritate others. Either way, I don't have time for it.
>
> MSNBC fires Olbermann, Matthews:
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/08/AR2008090800008.html

	Read the whole article (or any of the others that covered it):

	"Olbermann and Matthews will remain as analysts during major  
political events, and officials at both networks, who declined to be  
identified discussing personnel moves, said Olbermann had initiated  
the discussions to clarify his role. They said Olbermann's influence  
at MSNBC would in no way be diminished and that the shift would enable  
him and Matthews to offer more candid analysis during live coverage.  
Olbermann confirmed yesterday he had initiated the discussions."

	They were not fired, they just won't anchor events (note, it does not  
say they won't anchor their current shows).

	They also weren't just telling the truth, as you had it:

	"Olbermann was involved in several on-air incidents during the  
conventions that drew unwanted attention. He told morning host Joe  
Scarborough, a former Republican congressman, to "get a shovel" as  
Scarborough was defending the McCain campaign. And when GOP strategist  
Mike Murphy was debating Matthews, Olbermann could be heard saying,  
"Let's wrap him up.""

	They didn't have class, etc. That's why our elections are in the  
gutter. If everyone was respectful, things would be much better...

>
> Obama and Biden are Right wing authoritarian candidates, just not as
> right wing and not as authoritarian as McCain and Palin:
>
> http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2008
>
> Support of Obama does not equal liberalism, it equals centrism. MSNBC
> is less right wing than Fox or CNN, but more right wing than true
> liberal news sources. If you have any specific issues with what I
> wrote, lets hear your view.

	Obviously, we are talking about American liberalism, while you are  
talking about the broader term. Obama is an American liberal. And not  
anywhere near as centrist as, say, President Clinton.

	-Tim


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