[CS-FSLUG] Karmic Koala

[David McGlone]

On Sunday 01 November 2009 11:55:12 Fred A. Miller wrote:
> David McGlone wrote:
> > On Saturday 31 October 2009 23:37:28 Fred A. Miller wrote:
> >> Ed Hurst wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:54:40 -0500, Lincoln Fessenden
> >>>
> >>> <l4c at thelinuxlink.net> wrote:
> >>>> You don't believe in Slackware?
> >>>
> >>> Let me save you some time, Bro. Linc. Slackware remains indelibly
> >>> stained in my mind with the close association of it's founder, and his
> >>> product, to the Church of the Subgenius. Had that been merely a big
> >>> joke on churches, I'd have thought nothing of it. But the whole thing
> >>> sarcastically mocks faith itself, and Patrick did his best to
> >>> associate himself publicly with it. We still have some of the images
> >>> from that joke in the standard screensavers, BTW. It's just a matter
> >>> of my own conscience.
> >>>
> >>> As for Mint, I tried a couple of different releases. I saw no
> >>> advantage at all over Ubuntu, and didn't much care for the default
> >>> colors of either. Further, I recall reading of a complete commitment
> >>> by the Mint folks to rolling release, which I despise. With Ubuntu, at
> >>> least, I can work into the next LTS for a three-year support cycle.
> >>> Failing that, I have some small hope for CentOS 6 in the spring
> >>> providing a far greater lifespan. I love CentOS, and tolerate
> >>> Ubuntu/Debian. I once loved SUSE, but too many bad releases in a row
> >>> have turned me off once and for all. Their 8.2 was the last time I got
> >>> things working properly and stable. I suppose 10.3 came close, but it
> >>> was still rough, but I had to give it a chance.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, I have hard prejudices. :-D
> >>
> >> So do I.....one of them is Islam. If one is a real Christian, he/she
> >> adheres to the edicts of the Bible. If one is a real Muslim, he/she
> >> adheres to the dictates of the Quran. Simple.
> >>
> >> I have Ubuntu 9.1 now installed on this Dell laptop. I'm going to give
> >> it a solid hard workout for the next few days, then make a decision as
> >> to what I want to do. I've always disliked Gnome, but I'm giving it an
> >> honest workout. I've not had the bad installs and problems you've had
> >> with openSUSE, fortunately. I also support a LOT of systems so if I
> >> decide to make a change, I have a LOT of work to do. But, like you,
> >> there's some things with openSUSE that I don't like.
> >
> > On the KDE list I'm hearing some complaints about the new Kubuntu. I sure
> > hope those problems are not present in Ubuntu 9.10 also or it just might
> > tarnish your impression of Ubuntu.
>
> I have no doubt that there are complaints but I'd guess that the cause
> is KDE. 

I agree. 

> The rewrite of KDE was a major undertaking, and I don't expect
> it to really stabilize for another 2 or 3 releases,

I um, don't know. I can safely say in my 12 or 13 or so years of using KDE, it 
was always lacking. Tank for instance, what I describe about the network 
manager not working correctly in KDE. It hasn't worked as far back as I can 
remember, since before KDE 4 was ever thought about.

I remember specifically trying to enter my wireless network passphrase and it 
would never ever take, so I always had to enter the hex key, and I had to 
enter it 2 or 3 times for it to actually work. Finally a couple years ago I 
got fed up and quit using a passphrase and started using MAC address filtering 
only.

I also specifically remember that knetworkmanager would never ever list any 
available wireless networks and I always had to resort to using the command 
iwscan on the command line. At the time, I thought this was the norm and so I 
never questioned it, but when I installed Gnome, I noticed these little things 
that worked that never did work for me in KDE.

I am not advocating Gnome or trying to discredit KDE, they are both great 
desktops, it just so happens that Gnome has all the little quirks worked out 
that I mostly use.


>Ubuntu is certainly a lot faster than KDE, even with compiz.

Yeah, I noticed this also.

-- 
Blessings
David M.