[CS-FSLUG] OT Re: school dress code,

[Yama Ploskonka]

doc, 'mash, thank you guys,

I will get tomorrow the upperclassmen for a meeting during recess and
they don't get out of the closed room until they have agreed on a few
rules about what is proper, and how THEY will enforce them.  I fully
trust them to come out with something as straight, yet more enforceable
(because it was their solution) than anything I might come up with :-)

Before I leave them to cringe and despair their lost leisure time, I
might remind them that I see their education in this (Christian) school
as the education of officers to lead hosts for the Lord, and how, in the
Services, the uniform is a tool rather than a look.

I will also pass on to the Admin the idea of slacks.  Yes, I do recall
how when I was a just-off-the-tree teacher, I once sat right in front of
this line of high school girls with way too short skirts.  It was quite
embarrassing, and made for me to have to keep standing up most of the time.

Yama

David Colburn wrote:
> The key questions re. school property dress code are:
> 
> 1. Does the choice of dress have any impact on the
> intellectual learning process?
> 
> 2.  Does the choice of dress have any impact on the
> value-system learning process?
> 
> 3.  Does the battle between administration and students
> re. choice of dress have a threshold where it in and of
> itself has an impact on the learning process?
> 
> Although never a Roman Catholic I attended a RC HS.
> The girls fought a never-ending battle of rolled-up or
> pulled-up skirts and too-tight, too-transparent, too-
> unbuttoned blouses.
> 
> Impact?
> 
> 1.  Yes.  The boys were far more interested in what
> they might glimpse across the aisle than what was
> being written on the blackboard.
> 
> 2.  Yes.  Inevitably the boys competed for what the
> exposed flesh marketed rather than the values merely
> preached by teachers and administrators who created
> the uniform rules that exposed so much temptation.
> 
> 3.  Yes.  Because the uniforms were foolishly designed
> girls were removed from the classroom to have hemlines
> measured!  Had the bottoms been slacks it would have
> eliminated much of the problem!
> 
> Sidebar:  Male friends at the government "public" HS
> remarked that they loved any interaction with the RC
> HS because it was the only time they ever saw a girl's
> legs.  The girls at their HS all wore slacks.  The
> dress code had failed miserably.
> 
> IMHO, YMMV ... doc
> 
>> One specific thing I got from the movies: I am making myself a nuisance
>> in the (Christian) school where I teach by insisting in proper dress
>> code compliance, specifically requiring shirts tucked in.  I became this
>> way after watching the sophomoric Hogwarts crowd in action.
>>
>> BTW, this is totally off topic, but, what do you think of that issue?  I
>> am not happy either way. I mean, the line has to be drawn somewhere
>> between what is inappropriate attire (extremes: spagetti straps, belly
>> showing shirts, low hanging pants) and what to require and enforce.  I
>> have chosen to be conservative in what I mandate, and so far I have the
>> faculty's support, but the older kids are a bit rebellious and a few
>> parents seem to be on that side.  I just would rather find a way we can
>> enforce by consensus.
> 
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