[CS-FSLUG] Virtual machines

Vincent Danen vdanen at linsec.ca
Fri Dec 1 16:31:23 CST 2006

* Frank Bax <fbax at sympatico.ca> [2006-12-01 16:26:51 -0500]:

> >* Frank Bax <fbax at sympatico.ca> [2006-12-01 12:42:07 -0500]:
> > > OpenBSD has emulation for both FreeBSD and Linux binaries.  I have Linux
> > > emulation working (because OOo works).  I attempted VMware player install,
> > > it didn't work, I asked on bsd-misc list; somebody said "No".
> >
> >Oh neat, I didn't know it had Linux emulation (I've only really played
> >with OpenBSD as a server OS).  It doesn't surprise me that vmware
> >wouldn't work on it tho... I believe even on FreeBSD it's pretty
> >hit-and-miss.  I think vmware is too tied to low-level stuff in the OS
> >for it to be properly emulated like that (could be wrong tho).
> grep emul /etc/sysctl.conf
> I was reading that vmware (QEMU also) has a bunch of services running 
> behind the scenes.  There is what amounts to a nat router between the guest 
> and host machines; plus other stuff.  VMWare uses SysV init scripts; not 
> compatible with bsd init scripts.  Perhaps FreeBSD has some of those 
> converted (which would explain "hit-and-miss").

Could be, although I don't think the initscripts were what were causing
the issues I had read about (mind you, this was a few years ago too).
Initscripts are easy enough to deal with...  I've converted many to run
scripts to use with runit (which is what Annvix uses, instead of
traditional initscripts).

> My OpenBSD experience (since 2000) has also been servers without X.  I 
> tried X (and KDE) on OpenBSD a few years ago; but gave up.  I tried desktop 
> again with 4.0 - my older monitor (17" 1999) took a little tweak to get 
> higher than 640x480; otherwise no biggie problems.  This time I avoided the 
> bulkier gui's and went with icewm - so far so good (only a few days). 

Yeah, I never really got the appeal of using OpenBSD for a desktop... I
figure if I wanted a BSD desktop, I'd use FreeBSD.  I prefer my OpenBSD
on a server, with no X... =)  (Like all servers should be)

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