[CS-FSLUG] A Grand Pipe-dream Proposal

[Christopher Rose]

Ed,

Did I miss the point? Neither Tin Foil Hat Linux nor Pocket Linux have an x-server and they work just fine. Both are apparently slackware based and can use the pkg command to install a cli based spreadsheet program and a few other things like midnight commander (a file manager). Tin Foil is an overly secure version of Linux that is pure cli and Pocket Linux (and Herbix for that matter) are also pure cli, though meant more for networking. As I previously stated, I do not know if they can be installed to a hard drive or not, but they can write to hd just fine (Tin Foil can wipe a 500MB hard drive to factory clean in about 30 minutes---I know, I did). Oh, have you looked at the X-server in Basic Linux? It works great for my laptop at 640X480 and my laptop is 100MHz 486 using an AMD-X-5 chip. Not to mention that you do not setup x in basic linux. In fact, you NEVER have to startx if you don't want to as it boots at the console and works find as a console, though you can download and install extra tools and accessories, including a cli based speadsheet (sc.tgz), and improved ssh.tgz client and can be used for dialup networking. Basic DOES install to HD if you so desire. However, if that is not what you are looking for, I did once install turbolinux in a very basic configuration in which all I installed was BASH, the Kernel, and a couple of other small utilities (only to find myself unable to do much with it beyond playing that Dunnet game on emacs). No x-server or anything else that was useful to me. Please understand that I am not being critical, just analyzing this as I type. If my reply is of no help to you, I understand. I was just trying to help.

Pax,
Christopher



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Hurst" <ehurst at asisaid.com>
To: "A Christian virtual Free Software and Linux Users Group." <Christiansource at ofb.biz>
Subject: Re: [CS-FSLUG] A Grand Pipe-dream Proposal
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:41:43 -0600 (CST)

> 
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Christopher Rose wrote:
> 
> > Basic linux is pretty easy to learn and Pocket Linux is a one disk
> > console floppy (so is Tin Hat, but it has quirks). There are couple
> > of download sites left for Grey Cat 3 if you don't mind Linux on a
> > Dos partition, but at least you will have an X-server and netscape 3.
> > I do know they will run in a 486 enviroment and I have heard from the
> > Basic Linux listserv that one guy is running BL3 on an old 286 that
> > somebody gave him (you know he had to have upgraded the floppy drive
> > at the very least). I have also heard of Pocket Linux running on a
> > Mac, though it does not install (strictly a floppy distro, but it can
> > write to hd with a little work). I know that there are a couple of
> > other floppy distros, including Herbix (which was more of a floppy
> > router than an actual distro), that seem pretty straight forward.
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Pax,
> > Christopher Rose
> 
> You miss the point, Christopher. Why setup X at all, when it's possible
> to do everything with it? I'm not asking for advice to identify floppy
> distros; I'm asking to get rid of X altogether. Let's talk about VGA
> screens. There's NO version of X that works adequately in 640x480
> without a virtual screen, and nowadays nothing on the desktop works in
> 256 color, much less 16 color. I've tried it. Every major GUI toolkit
> now assumes 16-bit color at a minimum. A genuine console work
> environment is superior for such things, if it has all the tools.
> 
> Ed Hurst
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