[CS-FSLUG] Need input

K. Luckenbaugh kluck at gdrs.com
Tue Jan 25 08:34:25 CST 2005


Daniel Miller wrote:

>Upon digging through my mound of no longer loved gear, I have come by
>the following hardware:
>
>3 DIMM modules of PC 100 RAM.  (Two are at 256 MB and the other at 64)
>2 RIMM modules of PC 800 RAM.  (Both are 256 MB)
>2 Slot Type PIII 900 Mhz processors (Motherboard bios is fried)
>1 Working Slot type Athalon motherboard with 800 MHz processor.
>1 Socket A Athlon processor at 900 MHz
>1 (Still working mind you) Voodoo 3 graphics card
>1 350 watt power supply
>
>All gear listed besides the bad motherboard (I wish it wasn't fried as
>it supports dual processors) is in great working condition.  I am more
>than willing to part with all of it, as the only thing that it's doing
>is collecting dust.  If you are anyone else on the list can use it,
>let me know and I will get it out to ou this weekend.
>
>Blessings,
>Daniel
>
>
>On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:54:01 -0600 (CST), Ed Hurst <ehurst at asisaid.com> wrote:
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>>                           Refining the Quest
>>
>>In my computer ministry I often run into a lot of older boxes still
>>running quite well. They lack the processor or RAM to run a full-blown
>>modern Linux distro, or even a BSD, if we expect to run recent releases
>>of either X server. For the die-hard, there's Deli Linux[1] and that's
>>one way of doing things. Use an older kernel series, but fully updated
>>for security; use the older version of X, slightly enhanced; use all
>>the lightest possible applications: Siag Office, Dillo, Sylpheed, etc.
>>That's a pretty good answer for some uses, and I plan to watch it
>>closely, and test it on some of those older machines.
>>
>>Even without a basic hostility to X altogether, there are valid reasons
>>for avoiding it. In the first place, X is a server, primarily designed
>>to serve the GUI out to other machines. On the stand-alone desktop,
>>that's a lot of code not being used. There's an awful lot of Linux
>>machines out there being used that way. There's also quite a few
>>not-so-old machines that really struggle to run modern distros of
>>Linux, with lots of modern hardware options unsupported by the likes of
>>Deli Linux.
>>
>>Having continued my research on the console vs. light GUI quest, I've
>>concluded there's precious little hope for the latter. There are a
>>couple of bona fide light GUI projects: DirectFB[2] and KGI[3], along
>>with a few others. While both are available for Linux and FreeBSD, the
>>I'm guessing DirectFB has a brighther future with Linux, and KGI with
>>BSD. Both projects seem far down the road from producing a stable
>>product, plus I'm not yet sure from reading the documentation whether
>>current X-based apps will easily port to either. For now, the console
>>is the place I'll focus.
>>
>>Right from the start, when I began using Linux 8 years ago, I recall
>>reading in various user forums how Linux had completely lost out on the
>>development of a console word processor. Now, by definintion, a word
>>processor hides the formatting code from the user, and substitutes
>>various indicators of what the formatting looks like. On the console,
>>spacing and alignment isn't too hard to display, but character
>>formatting is usually indicated by color. In the minds of most users,
>>character-based word processing is connected to character mode
>>printing. Thus, for an American, that means a page of text is about 54
>>lines, and either 65 columns (10pt), 78 columns (12pt), or 98 columns
>>(15pt). Those were the standard font options built into most printers
>>back when this sort of word processing dominated the computer scene.
>>
>>Unless printer drivers are written for each printer, in the fashion of
>>Word Perfect 5.x and 6.x, there's not that many options for character
>>mode printing that includes the few basic text enhancements built into
>>most printers with their internal fonts. There is a frame work for it
>>with nroff and troff, but those are markup languages. As far as I know,
>>only the Andrew Project ("EZ") from Carnegie-Melon tried anything with
>>that, and their suite was GUI. To use groff guarantees processing the
>>output into graphical mode, and ghostscript/CUPS has that covered.
>>Frankly, I prefer dot-matrix printers and character mode printing.
>>Further, there's an awful lot of folks out there still using that sort
>>of hardware. It's not glamorous, it's anything but cutting edge, and
>>thus draws almost no attention from developers.
>>
>>That's the part I wish I could fix. Where's the handle? How do I grab
>>this? I reiterate that a very major part of my concern is making
>>Linux/Unix available for the Christians in the Third World. That won't
>>interest too many Open Source developers, whose numbers seem dominated
>>by non-believers. So I'm back to asking for comments and prayer. What
>>do you think?
>>
>>    [1] <URL: http://delilinux.berlios.de/>
>>    [2] <URL: http://www.directfb.org/>
>>    [3] <URL: http://kgi-wip.sourceforge.net/>
>>    [4] <URL: http://ed.asisaid.com/blog/index.php?p=203>
>>
>>Ed Hurst
>>-----------
>>A Bible Site -- http://webs.tconline.net/softedges/
>>Linux & Unix Help -- http://ed.asisaid.com/
>>Blog -- http://ed.asisaid.com/blog/
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Dan,

Ahhh, just what my boneyard needs.  What do you want for this??

Kelly

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