[CS-FSLUG] [PD] The American Flag - I'm speechless...

[Fred A. Miller]

Don Parris wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Fred A. Miller <fmiller at lightlink.com
> <mailto:fmiller at lightlink.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Don Parris wrote:
> 
>     [snip]
> 
>     > As for our current choices, choose your devil carefully.  Trust
>     neither
>     > of them fully.
> 
>     That is the most accurate of what you wrote. Part of me wants NOBama to
>     win as it WILL bring us much closer to the return of our Lord, but
>     having McCain win will buy us some more time to reach more of the lost.
> 
>     Fred
> 
> 
> You can be sure I wrote nothing inaccurate.  But you are welcome to your
> opinion.  My point is, we are sorely off track to accuse Obama
> (remember, he IS a Christian - had to split with his pastor who went

Well, we must "part" on that as well. I'm not saying he isn't, but let's
put it this way. He heard that hate speech for 20 yrs. before it was
politically expedient to leave. Second, I can not understand, and
frankly I consider it impossible to be a believer, and follower of
Christ AND still support abortion, euthanasia, and the marriage of
homosexuals. Those 3 things alone are a "killer" in my book.

> overboard on some comments he made) of being a non-Christian, pro
> anti-Christ, when sitting in our very own white house is a man who lied
> to his people about issues of national security, but supposedly is a

We have to break again, my friend. I don't believe Bush lied....may have
been given bad info., but lied...don't think so.

> Christian.  Without taking a stance on any particular politician, I just
> think the whole concept is ludicrous.
> 
> If you want to attack Obama, fine.  But you can probably do so without
> using our faith - and his - to do so.  Both candidats are supposedly
> Christians.  Neither has demonstrated perfect leadership.  Both are
> fundamentally flawed human beings, merely saved by grace.  Both have
> flawed human beings working on their behalf.  Both have made mistakes in
> the past and will do so again in the future.  Both candidates have
> inaccurately stated the others' position on various issues.

Yes...that part is true. However, McCanin doesn't have communist ties,
and terrorists for friends, etc.

> But what galls me most is the attitude that suggests that somehow Bush
> is more a saint than Clinton, or that McCain somehow is more a saint
> than Obama.  And, God forbid, if Palin has actually abused her power as
> Governor, just think what might happen if she has to step into McCain's
> shoes!  I just simply don't buy into the notion that somehow the
> conservative Republicans are somehow more Christian and saintly than the
> liberal Democrats (especially since both parties include many
> Bible-believing Christians).  Frankly, lying to a nation about the
> existence of WMD for the sake of invading a foreign country with little
> or no genuine cause is about as unjust as one can get.  Just try to
> convince me that this is somehow more saintly than a stupid act of oral sex.

It isn't, and by the way, we DID find WMDs. FACT! However, there IS one
fact that evades you, and I don't know why. The democratic part is
EXTREMELY leftist, and Obama is much more to the left that I suspect you
realize. THAT is an important distinction between him and McCain.

> Of course, based on your other post, I may very well be in the Devil's
> pocket since I reject any notion that the King James Version (or NKJV)
> is the "only" true word of God.  I hate to break it to folks, but Jesus
> did not speak the King's English - it didn't yet exist.  Ever try
> reading Beowulf in the original English?  And it wasn't written until
> 900-1000 years later!  :-)  That's not to speak of the poor foreigners
> who can't even understand English (let alone the King's English) and
> have to have the Bible translated into their actual languages (as
> opposed to the KJV) - a major failure of KJV-only proponents.  Say,
> didn't the Catholic Church try that trick - didn't they try to keep the
> Bible in Latin so they could exert control over interpretation?

Yes, they did, but you'll find some very bad changes in some "Bibles"
today. I find no errors in the KJV.

> I'm no liberal.  I am a patriotic, conservative Christian with
> politically moderate views.  I served as a Marine Infantryman.  I drove
> an ambulance for the volunteer rescue squad for a short time.  I have
> served to protect people and property since 1985, whether in the
> military, or as a private security officer.  I have preached the Gospel
> - and in an unbridled and unadulterated form at that.  But I have also
> personally witnessed how whites in America have used the Bible (among
> other excuses) - in the 1990's, not the 1960's - to suppress blacks in
> North and South Carolina.  I witnessed as Newt Gingrich announced his
> "Contract With America", only to watch him fall a few short years later
> - a victim of his own hypocrisy.  Indeed, I dropped from the Republican
> party by the next election - choosing to refrain from participating in
> either party.  I remain unaffiliated to this day.

Neither one is "lilly white," to be sure. However, 1 is grossly
controlled by those outside our faith.

> Again, don't try to preach to me about how Obama is some kind of
> Devil-cum-Laude while McCain is the next best thing to the risen
> Saviour.  I'll call it for what it is - a load of bull manure.

McCain isn't what I'd like either. It's a matter of how much damage will
either one do....Obama, with a demo. controlled Senate and House, WILL
create more havoc on our Republic that we can undo in a number of
generations. It's a matter of damage control my friend...damage control.

Blessings,

Fred

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