[CS-FSLUG] Why Don't ISPs Offer Secure POP Connections?

Jean Elchinger jeanelchinger at riseup.net
Thu Aug 23 01:11:42 CDT 2012

Hi everyone,

I would suggest using Riseup.net instead of ISP emails or gmail. I don't
use gmail anymore because I don't like plateforms owned by big companies
advertising and controling my messages.


    What is special about riseup.net email

Your riseup.net email account is a wonderful thing. Although we don't
provide as much storage quota as surveillance-funded corporate email
providers, riseup.net email has many unusual features:

/We encrypt traffic whenever possible./

    When you send email from riseup.net to another secure email
    provider, the email is encrypted for its entire journey. (see
    StartTLS <https://help.riseup.net/en/starttls> for more info)

/We don't disclose your location to email recipients./

    When you send email with riseup.net, your internet address (IP
    address) is not embedded in the email. With corporate email
    providers, anyone who receives your email can figure out your
    approximate physical location from the internet address included in
    the email.

/We don't log your internet address./

    Our commitment is to keep as little data on you as we can. Unlike
    corporate providers, we do not log internet addresses of anyone
    using riseup.net services, including email.

>> David, Gmail is secure in the sense that you have an encrypted
>> connection when you use it.  The point of my blog post is that many
>> people connect to their ISP's POP server by sending their password
>> *unencrypted* across the Internet - plain text for anyone to see.
>> Privacy is a separate issue, even if a bit intertwined.
>> :-)
> Over the Internet? Doesn't the word "Internet" suggest travel across two
> or more Internet ISP's and/or other domains? 
> When I connect to MY ISP POP server(s) am I not staying within their
> domain? My ISP is a cable company and I use one of their modems to
> connect to one of their POP servers using their hardware and wire.
> Don't get me wrong, I too would prefer a more secure connection which,
> to some degree I believe, I have when I use my ISP's webmail service to
> connect to my local eMail accounts.
> Not all users have the knowledge and skill to set up and manage their
> own eMail servers. What do you recommend they/we do?
> GR
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