[CS-FSLUG] Apple and Amazon security lapses exposed after writer has 'entire digital life' destroyed by hackers in minutes

Timothy Butler tbutler at ofb.biz
Sat Aug 11 11:22:39 CDT 2012

I haven't actually tested it on an iPhone yet, but I expect ownCloud would automatically sync with the iPhone. It's calendars are CalDav-based just like iCloud. The only downside is that it couldn't instantly push changes like iCloud or Exchange, I think.


On Aug 11, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Mark Clayton <clayton256 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a real love/hate relationship with the cloud. I live in rural
> NC so my dslam connection is painfully slow most of the time. Also,
> cell reception is even slower if at all. But I still use the cloud for
> calendar, contacts and email storage and a few documents. I would love
> to do more cloud based stuff but I find aspects of the cloud
> frustrating. For instance, I use gmail and it and icloud do not play
> nice together. My phone has duplicate contacts b/c the two services
> handle companies differently. And i can't find an iphone app that
> display's Libre/Open Office docs properly.
> I would love to host my own cloud too. I guess I've been burned too
> many times by some piece of critical software getting dropped or
> getting so buggy it's unusable or getting too expensive to justify. I
> looked into ownCloud, and it's ok but you have to sync manually and it
> doesn't sync calendars on the iPhone. These issues make it something I
> can't ask my wife to use. In the next 6-12 months my wife and I are
> going to buy a campground. When we have that I'd really like to
> explore cloud based reservations software. I'd like calls to ring
> through to a cell phone where we can place reservations from anywhere
> on or off the grounds. But I guess that'd be considered more web
> based, not cloud based.
> Mark
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Timothy Butler <tbutler at ofb.biz> wrote:
>> On 2012-08-07 23:36, Fred A. Miller wrote:
>>> Backup AND stay OUT of "the cloud."
>> Well, I'm not sure I'd go that far. I'm pretty dependent on several clouds
>> floating around for me and it makes my life vastly easier because of it. My
>> documents all go on Dropbox, which ensures that I can get to what I need
>> whether I'm on my laptop, I'm at my office at church or my office at the
>> university where I teach (or my iPhone). Mac OS X makes it super simple to
>> create encrypted disk images if one needs to ensure that Dropbox can't view
>> it.
>> I use iCloud to keep my contacts, calendar and bookmarks in sync between my
>> computers, my iPhone and my iPad. This is really essential, since I'm far
>> too absentminded to remember to keep my contacts and calendar in sync the
>> "old fashion way." (I might move to a self-hosted ownCloud for this.) iCloud
>> also streams all the photos I take on my iPhone straight to Aperture and all
>> the photos I import into Aperture to my iPhone and iPad.
>> And then, of course, my e-mail is all cloud based using IMAP or Exchange
>> servers (my self-hosted e-mail addresses are IMAP, the college and the
>> seminary both use Exchange).
>> In any case, I think the Cloud is here to stay. But, one can still protect
>> one's data just by backing it up offline too... The nightmare described by
>> the journalist could not happen to me unless someone broke in and stole my
>> physical backups...
>> Blessings,
>> Tim
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