[CS-FSLUG] Ubuntu Christian Edition 1.0

[Raphaël Pinson]

Le Jeudi 17 Août 2006 02:33, Don Parris a écrit :
> To be honest, I didn't know  *what* to think initially.  It was like being
> blindsided.  Here  we have believers on at least three separate  discussion
> lists all working together, or separately in some cases, to get a distro
> out there for churches, and then comes along some guy with a custom Ubuntu
> distro.  Well, I welcome the effort, and hope it will blossom nicely.

I am still wondering a lot about Ubuntu Christian Edition. As I said, I've 
been disappointed when it came out, and even more afterwards, because this 
guy knows about Ichthux and chose to do his own project instead of joining 
forces, which is something I really don't grasp.

Moreover, this guy is not a Debian or Ubuntu developer. Don't get me wrong, I 
was not a developer myself when I started Ichthux. And this is the exact 
reason why it took me one year to get from the live CD I released based on 
Knoppix, to what I'm doing today:  I needed to be an Ubuntu developer and 
learn a lot about packaging and distro-making to achieve the work I've been 
doing this week. The result of this is that this guy is in the same technical 
trap I was in a year ago. He obviously doesn't know to package, so all he can 
do is adding existing packages, and sooner or later he'll be stuck when it 
comes to tuning the configuration or migrating from Ubuntu. Well, he's been 
smart enough to release scripts to migrate and tune the distro. But what will 
happen when people want to upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu CE? There's 
no traceability in the scripts, and it's eventually going nowhere, eventhough 
the idea is great. Now again, don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing Ubuntu CE, 
this is not my goal at all. I just find it sad that this guy spends so much 
time on a project that is technically going nowhere, when we have the tools 
and knowledge to go forward. The fact is that the Ichthux project currently 
gathers many official Christian developers in Ubuntu and Debian, so we can 
work directly upstream, including Ichthux in Ubuntu and Debian and working on 
packages directly in Ubuntu and Debian.

I'm also personally disappointed by the fact that Ubuntu CE seem to have begun 
to sell t-shirts and other kind of goodies before actually releasing 
software. I have a hard time understanding how goodies can come before there 
is even a program, and I also don't love seeing merchandising on an 
open-source software website ;) Ubuntu has lots of goodies around, but 
nothing is sold on the webpage.

I really wish good luck to Jereme, but I'm afraid he's going to have a hard 
time going much further than where he is currently.


-- 
Raphaël Pinson
<raphink at raphink.net>
http://www.raphink.info
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