[CS-FSLUG] God Didn't Say That
Alvin Smith
email at alvinsmith.com
Thu Jan 6 13:15:33 CST 2005
On Thursday 06 January 2005 01:22 pm, Ralph De Witt wrote:
> On Thursday 06 January 2005 12:17 am, Eduardo Sanchez wrote:
> (snip)
>
> > And a question to Ralph: Ralph, these issues are settled for all
> > practical purposes, save for those who willingly insist in twisting the
> > Holy Scriptures, so I suspect this is nothing more than a flamebait.
>
> Nope no flamebait.
>
> > Why did you forward us this drivel?
>
> Eduardo:
> I was not going to answer this as it is no flamebait and I am no troll, but
> then decided to answer. I simply did it because to me and perhaps the
> larger percentage of Christians this "problem" is solved by full inclusion
> in the life of the church. The first quote I received to this thread was a
> very closed minded and unchristian "'Same pro-queer garbage I've seen
> before."
>
> To me and perhaps the larger majority of Christians "The Bible teaches us
> to love God and neighbor (Matthew 22:36-40), and to allow
> the Holy Spirit to develop within us the qualities of love, joy, peace,
> patience, kindness, generosity, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control
> (Galatians 5:22-23).
>
True.
> When children, youth and adults embody these values, regardless of sexual
> orientation,
Here is the problem. Love is a verb. If you love Me you will keep my
commandments. Having sex outside of marriage is not permitted.
> we are growing into the whole people God hopes we will become.
> You or I may hyperfocus on a person's sexual orientation, but God loves the
> sum of all of our parts."
>
True. While we were yet sinners Christ died for us.
> In my mind simply put God's son came to earth to love, heal, and forgive.
True. But we have to repent, make a 180 degree turn away from our sinful
lifestyle.
> The bible does not condemn homosexual's but does condemn homosexual sex and
> other sexual practices as part of the religious service.
I suppose I would have to request your source here.
> Remember that
> homosexual and heterosexual sex was a part of most of the predominate
> religions at the time Christianity was starting and Christians wished to
> distants themselves from the other religions of the time. With One God and
> no sex.
They used to kill babies as part of religious services too. Does that make it
ok to kill babies in the privacy of your own bedroom?
> In our Judeo-Christian society, the documents known as the Bible serve as
> the primary guide on most issues. It is interesting that many Christians
> take literally the references to homosexual acts
As they should.
> while interpreting other
> text with great flexibility.
The truth is still the truth.
> And I some times grow weary of the flood of
> FUD on this subject
If you are practicing sexual immorality, you should be in FEAR.
If you have not accepted Jesus Christ as your *LORD*, you may well be
UNCERTAIN.
If you have not repented from your evil sinful ways and accepted Jesus Christ
as your Savior, you may well have quite a bit of DOUBT.
But perhaps I am waiting bandwidth since you do not see sodomy as a sinful
act, even though you identify it as part of pagan ritual.
--
peace,
Alvin Smith
http://www.alvinsmith.com
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