[CS-FSLUG] Transitions (was: Wacky thought - Linux consulting)

Josiah Ritchie jritchie at bible.edu
Thu Apr 8 09:07:29 CDT 2004


Sorry for my part in that Nathan, good response. Sounds like you've
got it under control. :-) I'll step back and enjoy my piece of humble
pie in the corner.

JSR/

N.Thompson scripted ::

>Don't jump to conclusions before letting me have a chance to defend
>myself.
>
>First off I was mistaken, the school hasn't purchased the new
>computers yet, the new computer lab turned out just to be a spare
>running more of the same old IBM's as the computer lab I have my
>computer science class in, the only difference was the computer
>cases.
>
>I do not have an antagonistic relationship with the sysadmins and
>computer science teacher at school, while I haven't meat the
>systadmin at school yet that I know of I spend lots of time talking
>to my computer science teacher and we are  on very good terms (made
>better by my 90% in computer science last term). Anyway I heard from
>him that the school was going to be buying new computers (eventually)
>so I asked him a little about that. The school has a bidding system
>for the new sysadmin, whoever presents them with the most favourable
>price to quality ratio gets the job and gets to call the shots.
>
>I wanted to make sure my computer teacher knew that Open Source
>software was as good as just about anything for Windows (give or take
>a few missing or new apps) so I burned him off a copy of an
>OpenOffice.org CD I made with my own autorun program for windows and
>Linux and I think I also burned him off a copy of the OpenCD so he
>could try it out. I also posted some screenshots of Mandrake 10.0,
>Qt-Designer, KDE and KDevelop on the schools message boards so he and
>the other students could see how nice some stuff in Linux is. I'm
>hoping that if he has some voice in the decision making process for
>choosing the new sysadmin this will allow him to make a more educated
>decision.
>
>I did not complain about the schools windows systems at all, however
>I did tell my computer science teacher about Linux and when the
>teacher would pipe up and say "I wish windows could ..." usually I
>would wind up telling him Linux could, finally he learned not to say
>that any more :-) .
>
>Anyway the school is upgrading to new computer systems anyway and
>they are going to be upgrading to a more current OS which may and up
>being Windows XP professional and server 2003 for the file server,
>but they could easily make the switch to Linux with just as much ease
>and save money in the process if they chose to go with something like
>SUSE or Mandrake Linux. Plus they wouldn't have to run old versions
>of Visual Basic 6 and Microsoft's Java implementation which are no
>good for teaching any more because the students can only use it at
>school.
>
>BTW. Just to clarify something, Microsof's java is not compatible
>with Sun's java and was designed this way specifically to try and
>make it a Windows only programming language, so Microsoft's
>implementation is not platform independent.
>
>On April 7, 2004 10:21 am, Eduardo Sanchez wrote:
>> On Wednesday 07 April 2004 09:51, Stephen J. McCracken wrote:
>> [big snip]
>>
>> > It sounds from these last two paragraphs that you are already in
>an> > antagonistic relationship with these people, and that NEVER...
>I> > repeat:
>> > NEVER helps.  Rather than sitting back and berating the guy (BTW,
>does> > that show the love of Christ?) why don't you volunteer to
>help him out> > with his work.  In the process you can learn more
>about WinNT and his> > concerns and maybe have a chance to widen his
>horizons in teaching him> > some about Linux and Open Source.  In the
>process you might gain a> > friend rather than someone who starts to
>hate to see you if you are> > always berating what he does.
>> >
>> > sjm
>>
>> On a sidenote, I don't think that one could conclude from Nathan's
>> writings that he's on an antagonistic relationship with such
>people. I> would take Nathan's email at its face value: an expresion
>of his> genuine feelings. I think he's entitled to them and I also
>think it's> just fair to share them with the List. We are his
>brothers and his> friends and frequently we have held him in prayer.
>And I know how> frustrating is being forced to deal with some
>proprietary software when> perfectly good free alternatives do exist.
>>
>> OTOH, Steven's advice is very good advice. I would not only endorse
>it> myself to Nathan; I would also take heed of it because I know I
>need> it.
>>
>> May God bless you all,
>>
>> Eduardo
>
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