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On 05/13/2011 03:27 AM, Timothy Butler wrote:
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On May 12, 2011, at 10:42 PM, "Fred A. Miller" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:fmiller@lightlink.com"><fmiller@lightlink.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">True. However, it's my experience, limited as that might be, that once correction has been attempted.....multiple times and rejected, it's clear that getting back to Biblical dictates isn't going to happen. For me, the course then is most clear.
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I think I would mostly agree. But, if I were in a sound congregation in the PC(USA), I would probably have a hard time leaving over a denominational thing. Given the "local option" system of this change, some whole presbyteries may refuse to go with the flow...
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That is quite right. IF, (and here again, my experience with
presbyteries in NY state is that they are liberal), they have been
followers of Christ they may well do that. After all, look what has
happened to a number of Episcopal churches. <br>
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<pre wrap="">On the whole, I know I'd rather be in the PC(USA) any day over my old church, whose abuses have been publicized somewhat, but the ("good denomination") E-Free ignores.
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Not knowing what that church is, I can't comment.
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The Evanglical Free Church is the denomination that Trinity Evangelical Divinity School belongs to and to which Chuck Swindoll is a member. I was in it for about ten years after the church I was a member of left the UCC and joined it. It is a conservative, highly congregational denomination. Notably, it dots all the right i's theologically, so it gets a pass. Similar, I suppose, to Sovereign Grace Ministries, which has a very ominous cloud of abuse most folks ignore.
I am happily out of the E-Free for theological reasons, in addition to the others. I am much better suited to the Presbyterian world where I basically belonged.</pre>
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Interesting. Chuck Swindoll? I find it hard to believe that he'd be
involved in anything not on the "up and up." Not knowingly anyway. <br>
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"Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it
tougher for sober people to own cars." - Unknown
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