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On 12/17/2009 09:13 AM, Josiah Ritchie wrote:
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:54 AM, l4c <span
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<div class="im">Ed Hurst wrote:<br>
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On 12/16/2009 10:38 PM, Fred A. Miller wrote:<br>
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You haven't seen what I've seen, Ed.<br>
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Nor have you seen what I have. We are all experts at one thing or
another, but it weakens your claim when you are ungracious. If you
posted as many articles about evangelizing Muslims as you did about
promoting slaughter of them, perhaps it would be more acceptable. But
you've already shown your colors, so it's too late for that.<br>
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Moderator says: Back off.<br>
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Interesting Ed, I get all the exact same posts from Fred on my list. I
seem them all twice since I am on this one too. I don't remember any
promotion of the "slaughter" of anyone.<br>
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<div>Either way, our scriptural mandate is to evangelize the world in
hopes that the message of the gospel in the hands of our God will
change their hearts. Learning the depth of their hatred (or the
ineptitude of politicians) does not assist me in this cause. I am aware
that the world is going to hell. I strive to have an attitude of action
and compassion as a result. Fred's emails didn't encourage me in this
way, and after a lot of personal thought and debate, I decided to
enable a filter to censor his commentary. There are points (linux
related) I am disappointed to lose, but I can get that else where. This
happened about 4-6 months ago and I've been on this list for about 8
years. Fred's been posting stuff here since before then. </div>
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<div>Hopefully, Fred, you'll see this wasn't a decision I came to
lightly. It came down to this. Having a Godly attitude towards these
people you talk about was hampered by the articles and commentary you
sent. This is, of course, a personal conviction that I know you don't
share.</div>
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I see conversion as being important. I don't see that happening
anywhere. What I see isn't pretty.....it's deadly and getting worse.<br>
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<div>I say all that to respond to Linc's comment. Slaughter may have
been an exaggeration in some cases, but the point of the articles is
almost always highly critical and promotes actions that exclude certain
biblical responses such as evangelism. Ed has a military background and
if he defines military action as slaughter, I'm okay with that. In my
discussions with those who are unaware of these sorts of things, I find
many people who are extremely closed to the Christian God in our
society because they have seen too many Christians banging on the "we
have a responsibility to suppress the muslims" drum to not see a direct
connection with the Crusades. Then they hear us sing "Onward Christian
Soldiers" and it cinches the deal. (I understand the military
comparison to evangelism, but they don't.) These actions reflect little
of the desire of our Savior for them to be in heaven with Him. Our way
of life, our country, our very lives are nothing to lose if it means we
have a better chance to gain a church of believers in these lands of
the deceived and daily dieing for lack of the truth. They can not take
our God from us and that's all we ultimately have to lose. Is this not
the example of our own Jesus Christ, the one that the certain Jews
wanted to lead an army against the oppressive government? Did He not
refuse and chose to die instead?</div>
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That is correct......He chose to do that. I don't know that is what
we're all supposed to do now. As to the Crusades, there's much in
current history books that's not accurate. One needs to have done
proper study for many years to be able to discuss that issue
intelligently. I don't believe any of us here fit that qualification.<br>
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Fred<br>
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A REVOLUTIONARY IDEA!
'Time to put Nana Pelosi in a home!'</pre>
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