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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">----- Original Message ----<BR>From: Ed Hurst <ehurst@asisaid.com><BR>To: A Christian virtual Free Software and Linux Users Group. <christiansource@ofb.biz><BR>Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:30:37 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [CS-FSLUG] Administrative note: A Christian community is shutting down.<BR><BR>David McGlone wrote:<BR><BR>>> How shall they believe if they have no teacher?<BR>> <BR>> I humbly agree.<BR><BR>Taking off the list mod hat, here.<BR><BR>I want them here. We might *need* them here. It will change the list,<BR>perhaps in tone, surely in character. That might be good. It might not.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">It probably will change the tone and character.<BR><BR> This may not be the place to teach them. </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">This is also what I fear, but at least nobody can say we (or I) didn't try.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">It's not fear to<BR>note things like this have imploded in other places.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">Yes they have and I've seen it also. And I learned a great deal from it. </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">I've learned that getting upset and lashing out doesn't do any good.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif"> It's not about<BR>whether God can do it, but does He intend to here and now.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">Well the way I look at it, if God didn't intend it, it would have never been brought</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif"> to our attention in the first place.<BR><BR>Then comes the question whether we will rise to the occasion and make it<BR>work. It will be more work in the long run. </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">I'm not afraid of work, especially when it's for a good cause.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">Not because we would welcome<BR>rowdy folks -- that's really not much work. It only takes a minute or<BR>two to remind folks where the boundaries are, and another minute or two<BR>to block someone from the list who won't observe them.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">True.<BR><BR>It will be work because everyone will get more traffic, probably more<BR>threads, and we will not have quite that insulation we now have.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">I don't read every thread. I don't even think everyone here does either, </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">but even if we did, I think it would be a small price to pay.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif"> And<BR>will they feel they have to pay a virtual "eye-tax" plowing through our<BR>redeemed verbiage with their spiritually dead souls? </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">They may or may not be spiritually dead, but if they are that is more</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">reason to invite them here.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">Those who deem it too much will agitate for more tech talk,</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">It seems this list is already 99.9% tech talk anyway.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif"> and we have to decide if such appeals are even permitted.<BR>You'll surely think of things I didn't, but I suppose it's possible our<BR>host and the moderator could create an "associate membership" category,<BR>wherein one need not assent to any statement of faith, but must<BR>recognize such rules the list itself, and rules their participation.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">I don't know how this would be approached, but put yourself in their shoes, would</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">you want to join something where you feel like the minority or the third wheel?</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">What I won't tolerate personally is the statement or implication there's<BR>something wrong with leaving that door closed.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif"> Just as surely has Jesus<BR>opened His ministry to all the damned on earth, He also took time to<BR>pull away and rest, and teach His disciples in private. Part of what we<BR>decide now is whether this list operation is closer to the former or latter.<BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">I don't think there is anything wrong with this, but what I do know is jesus would never</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">turn his back on someone who is in need.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">PS: I am just expressing my thoughts. I am in no way trying to push the issue or cause</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">any grief to anyone. I will wholeheartedly support any decision the list makes.</DIV></DIV></DIV></div></body></html>