[CS-FSLUG] Linux Today - Is desktop Linux too fragmented to succeed? A friend tells it like it is!!
Timothy Butler
tbutler at ofb.biz
Sun May 3 18:47:13 CDT 2009
>>
>> I would note again that GNOME is very configurable, many of the
>> options are just hidden from the GUI. (Which, make sense: you and I
>> don't mind mucking around a bit; but the average user doesn't care
>> if he
>> or she can set emacs to check the latest stock information and pop
>> up a
>> notification that the toaster has finished toasting.)
>
> Well now, how do you know what the flakes in academia want?! I'm near
> Cornell & Ithaca College, ya know! ;)
I don't know, I'm just "in tune" I suppose.
>> Here's a wild one: what if we dumped both legacy DEs? I think it
>> wouldn't be too bad of idea to build an entirely new DE on top of
>> GNUStep and Objective C. GNUStep's relation to Cocoa on Mac OS X
>> means
>> that many developers already use to developing for the iPhone or
>> Mac OS
>> X could program on Linux without a major learning curve.
>
> Not a bad idea, as long as it doesn't the look nor feel of Gnome. :)
Better yet, do something like this, but also make a version of Qt
that supported the new system, so all the KDE stuff would come over
"for free."
>
>> I think GNUStep/NeXTSTEP/Cocoa also are closer to the Haiku/BeOS
>> architecture. Which brings me to another wild point: perhaps if
>> everyone
>> refocused on developing Haiku that would be a better return on
>> investment. It seems like with some fit and finish it could be far
>> more
>> interesting than GNOME or KDE.
>
> I can't share your excitement....sorry.
We'll see. I always was intrigued by BeOS's speed and clean
interface. If it had the right feature set... imagine a netbook that
felt fast because the OS was so streamlined!
(One thing I like about Haiku is that it basically offers something
"innovative" if only because few know about the original BeOS -- it's
a different interface, a different philosophy, it isn't copying
Windows or Mac OS X, but it isn't just weird. Unlike, say, the Amiga
OS clones, it strikes me that Haiku could easily be a practical OS
someday sooner rather than later.)
>>
>> Don't lose hope. Actually, I'm feeling better about the Linux
>> desktop than I did -- as I said a few weeks ago, the last time I
>> installed Ubuntu on a computer at church, it was the first time I
>> ever
>> had someone excited to get to try this beautiful new OS, rather than
>> questioning what this strange thing I was using was.
>
> Reread what I said, and it has NOTHING to do with Ubuntu., etc. ;)
Oops, sorry, Fred. I thought that was an odd sentiment from you.
>
>> It's more the bumps they'd run into if they kept using it, my
>> original list, that would scare them off. I think Linux is ready
>> enough
>> for use under a system administrator in an office environment,
>> though.
>
> Of course, it has been for sometime as I've been doing it for
> sometime.
> ;) SuSE, of course.
I took note because I had never gotten a positive reaction from Linux
before. In fact, the same user had used the old Mandrake 9/KDE 3
system this new one replaced and always complained. When Ubuntu popped
up with its nice little tribal-themed startup sound, attractive
wallpaper and tasteful window manager effects...
Quite encouraging.
-Tim
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