[CS-FSLUG] Re: Activist Republican Judge Says CA Marriage Law Unconstitutional

[timbrown at ichristian.com]

Well, we know from what Paul wrote in Romans that God put those in authority 
over us in the  position they are in. In its context, it's talking about the 
rule of law. Since the inception of our country, it has been commonly 
accepted that sodomy was wrong. Yet Texas struck down sodomy laws a year 
back or so.

I guess my question is, based on the fact that God puts people in power to 
make laws and thus control wrong behavior, is it not only logical to EXPECT  
laws based on some form of morality? 

Besides -- the laws, as far as I know, don't say it is 'sin', they say it is 
unacceptable in our culture...specifically that "a marriage is a union 
between a man and a woman". That is not a reference to religion per se. 

I suppose my most pointed question would be if it's not the government's job 
to 'convict of sin' why can't we go to the logical conclusion that they have 
no right to speak on other things that are sin...such as murder? 

(This isn't aimed at you, Aaron) It's funny; all these activists want the 10 
commandments out of the public arena...yet they don't want the crime that 
the 10 commandments condemn...such as murder and theft. It's not ok to 
murder but you can't say "Thou Shalt Not Kill". 

Twisted thinking. 

Anyway Aaron, Let's remove same-sex marriage from the mix. Replace it with 
the word 'murder'. Would you use the same argument? The Ten Commandments 
were put in force by God to show the sinfulness of the human heart and the 
need for the Savior. If we dump the 10 Commandments from the public arena, 
we nullify one more thing that the Spirit uses to convict of sin! 

What of the government deciding to use another standard? They already 
are...it's called moral relativism. 

Don't misread what I'm saying, I'm not attacking you one bit. Just trying to 
express myself and not incredibly good at it. :) 

Blessings, 

Tim 

 


Aaron Lehmann writes: 

> On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 06:58:39PM -0500, Alvin Smith wrote:
>> On Sunday 20 March 2005 05:22 pm, Brian Derr wrote:
>> > Rather than wasting our time making laws that drive the lost away from
>> > the Word lets befriend them and show them the love of Jesus.  After all
>> > it is what Jesus would have done. 
>> 
>> Really?  Based on what scripture?   
>> 
>> It is after all the moral law of the 10 commandments that shows a man that he 
>> is in sin.  Without that law how would a man know that he is a sinner?  What 
>> would be the point of "showing the love of Jesus" to someone who does not 
>> need a Saviour in their mind?   
>> 
>> Whether a nation's government passes moral laws is immaterial to the believer.  
>> He still has to show a sinner that sin is very sinful by showing him the Law 
>> of a Holy God in order for him to see the true love and sacrifice of Christ.  
>> 
>> Otherwise there is no repentance, and no conversion.
> 
> True.  But do you believe it is the government's place to be convicting
> people of sin?  And if so, what if at some future point the government
> chooses a different definition of sin than what's in the Bible? 
> 
> Aaron Lehmann 
> 
>  
> 
 


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